PHC Delivery June 13

TonyC · **Posted:** Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:43 am

Yes folks. We have a definite date for collection of our PHC order for Thursday 13 June (Next Week!).

These will be available online from a new website which will appear on eBay called HornMart. This new outlet will be run by Mike Bosley. Our complete order is for the following PHC Cups & Rims:

PHC-21 20
PHC-21A 30
PHC-22 20
PHC-22A 30
PHC-23 20
PHC-23A 30
PHC-25 10
PHC-25A 10
PHC-AM S 10
PHC-AN S 30
PHC-AN ST 10
PHC-AS P 10
PHC-AS S 30
PHC-AS ST 10
PHC-AS-18 S 20
PHC-AS-18 ST 2
PHC-N S 20
PHC-N ST 2
PHC-S-18 S 10
PHC-US1 BP 20 (Black Plastic)
PHC-US2 BP 10 (Black Plastic)
PHC-US2 S 5
PHC-US2 ST 2
PHC-W P 2
PHC-"First" 50 (Yes 50)

Update - New Cups & Rims also being delivered

New Models
Alex 8 10
M-18 10

PHC Rims
AW * 10 *
US2 5
AN Gold 5

PHC Cups
20AX 5
20 5

Paxman have their own order for PHC Cups & Rims. Hopefully they will be ready at the same time.

TonyC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:11 pm

We collected most of this order today. The rims which were not ready to be collected will be back from the platers by Tuesday 18 June. I will collect the remainder of the order then, on Tuesday 18 June 2013.

The black plastic rims were not made yet and the new Alex 8 and M-18 rims will be made before Tuesday 18 June 2013.

Mike Bosley has the PHC cups and rims collected today and will be putting them on"Horn Mart" on eBay and @ Mike Bosley mikebosley@hotmail.co.uk .

You can contact Mike Bosley @ mikebosley@hotmail.co.uk . Please put "PHC Order" in the title of your email. Or "22A for Tim/Tina Aardvark" if that is indeed your name. It all helps speed up our response to you.

Thanks, TC

Will · **Joined:** Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:22 pm **Posts:** 214

So PHC do have PHCs in stock but Paxman don't. :shock:

monody · **Joined:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:37 pm **Posts:** 3

TonyC wrote:

Yes folks. We have a definite date for collection of our PHC order for Thursday 13 June (Next Week!).

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Update - New Cups & Rims also being delivered

[b]New Models
Alex 8 10
M-18 10

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The Alex 8, is that a one piece or a threaded cup?
Standard or E shank?

I hope these aren't stupid questions!

TonyC · **Posted:** Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:49 am

The 'Alex 8 style' rim is a rim for horn players who like the feel of the 'Alex 8 shape' of a rim which you can use with all PHC cups, whether E Taper or Standard Taper. The 'Alex 8 style' rims will also fit PHC's Stainless Steel cups (whether E Taper or Standard Taper).

There is only one fixed rim PHC Mouthpiece, the PHC "First" which is already on PHC's online eBay shop

http://stores.ebay.com/HornMart

londonhorn · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:53 am **Posts:** 15

Hi Tony,

what are the specs for the Alex style rim?

gibb.e.risky · **Posted:** Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:17 pm

Quote:

what are the specs for the Alex style rim?

I think there's a strong possibility that it will be a specific copy of an Alexander #8 rim with just enough slight variation to ensure that it doesn't breach any copyright or patent laws.

gibb.e.risky · **Posted:** Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:36 pm

Come to think of it, is it actually feasible or possible to take out a Patent on a mouthpiece? :?:

TonyC · **Posted:** Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:03 pm

Osmun in the USA got fed up with waiting for the always late orders from the PHC factory we have had to use for several years. Osmun's solution was to make and market copies of PHC which they called their "London Series".

There was no point in making a fuss. They wouldn't have had to do it if our factory had been capable of meeting any delivery dates, ever.

In the early 70s PHC were sued by Neil Sanders who thought that we were infringing his expensive patent. His design was a one-piece mouthpiece with a medium/shallow cup and a wide rim which sloped in from the outer edge to the point where the rim meets the cup.

We had to spend £300 preparing working drawings for the court case which Neil Sanders lost. They were both mouthpieces with a wider than normal rim, a mouthpiece cup and a hole at the bottom of the cup leading to the mouthpipe. As Dennis Wick discovered when JP from our factory wanted to sue him, mouthpieces are all very similar in principle. They all perform a similar task and when you look at a tray of 100 mouthpieces both ancient and modern you can find points of similarity between virtually all of them.

I don't imagine that Alex will feel threatened by a small company like ours selling a few 'Alex 8 Style' rims.

londonhorn · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:53 am **Posts:** 15

I have no idea what the specs are for an Alex 8 rim. Will it fit between the AS and AN rims or is the internal diameter different?

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