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Author:  fredfred852 [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:  How high is high? How low is low?

I know the range requirements of the standard solo and orchestral works, but am wondering what modern horn club arrangements are requiring these days at the high end and low end. What is it that even the good amateur might have to handle? I don't mean the really freakish Pip Eastop stuff on the two London Horn Sound CDs, but rather things that amateur horn clubs are playing.

Author:  londonhorn [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:37 am ]
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Freakish Pip Eastop? He'd be most upset to hear that....

Author:  Deano [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:01 pm ]
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fredfred852 wrote:
I know the range requirements of the standard solo and orchestral works, but am wondering what modern horn club arrangements are requiring these days at the high end and low end. What is it that even the good amateur might have to handle? I don't mean the really freakish Pip Eastop stuff on the two London Horn Sound CDs, but rather things that amateur horn clubs are playing.


I reckon pedal D up to top D is reasonable, there are always one or two folk who can oblige in a horn club (and it does give a better range for the arrangers to work with).

Just remember to use the top end sparingly but to the greatest effect and not too fast or long (breathing) down the bottom.

D :-)

Author:  WillDrawl [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:22 am ]
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Quote:
Freakish Pip Eastop? He'd be most upset to hear that....


The recent goss is that 'Freakish Pip Eastop' will soon be recording the Mozart Concertos on a freakin' horn with no valves, accompanyed by an orchestra of similarly disadvantaged freakin' 'period' instruments conducted by Tony H.
:geek:

Author:  londonhorn [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:07 pm ]
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Interesting. Would like to see how they compare to those by Mr Montgomery who has also recently recorded them.

Author:  Paul [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:53 pm ]
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Deano's suggestion of written D2 to D6 is a sensible range:
Pedal D is fairly common in horn ensemble Viennese bass horn parts
Top D is fairly common in other chamber music (wind 5tet, brass 5tet etc)

There are occasional pieces that add a few extra notes in either direction, but I'd recommend only worrying about them as and when they come along :lol:

Author:  Whatsitdoingnow [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:53 pm ]
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Top D?? :o if I'm lucky, down hill and with a following wind about once a week.

For me Top C usually down to pedal Bb (Ab if I'm lucky)

Never seen anything written lower than Pedal E, yet, but I've seen some very scary looking Haydn that goes above and beyond the reasonable call of duty with a normal mouthpiece and full double horn!

Author:  Deano [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:10 am ]
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Whatsitdoingnow wrote:
Top D?? :o if I'm lucky, down hill and with a following wind about once a week.

For me Top C usually down to pedal Bb (Ab if I'm lucky)

Never seen anything written lower than Pedal E, yet, but I've seen some very scary looking Haydn that goes above and beyond the reasonable call of duty with a normal mouthpiece and full double horn!



Here's an octet arrangement by an old duffer that covers the 4 octave range pedal D to top D, it's tough but not unplayable...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0vTpKAALRM

D :-)

Author:  fredfred852 [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:04 pm ]
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Thanks for responses. As for the "freakish Pip Eastop stuff" surely it is the "stuff" that was referred to as freakish, not Mr. Eastop.

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