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 Post subject: Re: Why are the Vienna Philharmonic so good?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:57 pm 
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Mike wrote:


Why are so many good young 1st horns using descant horns? They can play the notes without, surely.

:o


I don't know but I guess it doesn't matter if it sounds good.


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 Post subject: Re: Why are the Vienna Philharmonic so good?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:30 pm 
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Ian F wrote:
Ian F wrote:

Just stumbled over these pictures of Franz Strauss's horn.

http://www.pizka.de/fstrau3.htm

Well I thought it was interesting.

I'll get my anorak and go.


Check out these horns

http://www.naturallyhorns.co.uk/handhornsandrew.htm

http://www.naturallyhorns.co.uk/myhorns.htm

"That's the first horn that I made copy of in 2008! The original is actually closer to 150 years old and had valve tuning slides for horn in F, although to my eye they look like they were made later, maybe by another maker: the ferrules and stays are different. I made it because I thought it would be more likely to have a good high register than any of my leaky old antique horns. I used it for the Schumann Konzertstuck two years ago in three performances with OAE using an F crook, and still managed to get the top Es. In the first attachment you'll see the two horns I made in Dunster, British Columbia at the workshop of Keith Berg. One of them is the Strauss - Ottensteiner horn, the other a model of a Sandbach which was used at Covent Garden by principal horn player Cornelius O'Brien in around 1820."

Andrew Clark


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 Post subject: Re: Why are the Vienna Philharmonic so good?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:21 pm 
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.........a Sandbach which was used at Covent Garden by principal horn player Cornelius O'Brien in around 1820."

That was before the USA was invented. They didn't last long as a 'super power' did they.

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 Post subject: Re: Why are the Vienna Philharmonic so good?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:48 pm 
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Will wrote:
.........a Sandbach which was used at Covent Garden by principal horn player Cornelius O'Brien in around 1820."

That was before the USA was invented. They didn't last long as a 'super power' did they.

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1820 before the USA was invented?? Thought it was closer to 1776 or 1783 depending on how you look at it.


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 Post subject: Re: Why are the Vienna Philharmonic so good?
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 Post subject: Re: Why are the Vienna Philharmonic so good?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:47 pm 
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Whatsitdoingnow wrote:
Will wrote:
.........a Sandbach which was used at Covent Garden by principal horn player Cornelius O'Brien in around 1820."

That was before the USA was invented. They didn't last long as a 'super power' did they.

:lol:


1820 before the USA was invented?? Thought it was closer to 1776 or 1783 depending on how you look at it.

So the USA was at least 37 years old when Cornelius O'Brien was principal horn at Covent Garden in London, England.

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 Post subject: Re: Why are the Vienna Philharmonic so good?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:37 pm 
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Is it anything to do with being a mostly male orchestra?


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 Post subject: Re: Why are the Vienna Philharmonic so good?
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When and why did Wolfgang Tomböck move from 1st horn to 4th horn?


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 Post subject: Re: Why are the Vienna Philharmonic so good?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:28 pm 
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Will wrote:
When and why did Wolfgang Tomböck move from 1st horn to 4th horn?

Wolfgang Tomböck has moved to 4th horn but I don't know why. Does anyone know?


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 Post subject: Re: Why are the Vienna Philharmonic so good?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:31 am 
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Tombeck moving to fourth at this stage in his career has precedent. Richard Solis former principal in Cleveland moved to 4th. Anton Horner did the same in Philadelphia in the early-mid 20th century. Norbert Hauptmann in Berlin did the same. The wear and tear on first horn players takes its toll after a while. Not so much wear and tear on fourth. Clevenger on first for 40+ years in Chicago must be rare.


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