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 Post subject: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:56 pm 
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Hi everyone

I'm selling an Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve.
http://www.hornsociety.org/marketplace/ ... -alexander

Feel free to contact me if interested.


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 Post subject: Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve
PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:48 am 
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I don't think there will be much interest, in the UK, in an ascending-3rd-valve horn.
Is there still a continuing tradition of this type of horn in e.g. France, Belgium, Spain & The Netherlands? if so, your best bet would be to advertise it in 'mainland Europe' and possibly the USA where there are probably some enthusiastic '3rd-valve-ascending- anoraks'. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve
PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:04 pm 
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With the addition of a "normal" 3rd valve crook and a bit of swapping about, this horn could be reconfigured to work as a "normal" Bb single with c-alto and F crooks on the thumb valves, which is a more popular layout for an ascending 5-valve single :geek:


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 Post subject: Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve
PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:25 am 
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I think the ascending 3rd valve on the Bb side is a useful alternative to going for the Bb and high F route. Excellent top B, Bb, A, G#, G and F#, all with the ascending 3rd valve down. A bit lacking in overtones on C# on the third space but the concept of a C valve was used by Dennis Brain who was more of an innovator than a lot of current players IMHO.


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 Post subject: Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:45 am 
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There's bound to be a combination fingering to give richer third space C# for slow playing.

A quick experiment would reveal the most in tune out of the possibilites:
125 (8th partial)
24/45 [or 1234/1345] (9th partial)
124/145/245 [or maybe 1245] (10th partial)
(NB: 4 = F-valve, 5 = stop-valve)

There may be more options as well!


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 Post subject: Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:39 am 
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You have obviously studied Anthony Halstead's "50 different fingerings for the 4th horn solo in Don Juan which, as you know, has a total of six notes.

Where can we find this most useful resource? Online perhaps?

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 Post subject: Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:20 pm 
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In Farquharson Cousins' book.
Mr T.H. told me himself that in fact his '50 different fingerings' are only for the last 4 notes not all 6 notes, and furthermore. there are actually only 48 different fingerings as 2 of them are duplicated. Since he wrote them out by hand nearly 50 years ago, long before computers and the internet etc/ were commonplace, I'm sure I / we can excuse him for that small error...

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