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Author: | TimVG [ Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve |
Hi everyone I'm selling an Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve. http://www.hornsociety.org/marketplace/ ... -alexander Feel free to contact me if interested. Best Tim |
Author: | gibb.e.risky [ Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve |
I don't think there will be much interest, in the UK, in an ascending-3rd-valve horn. Is there still a continuing tradition of this type of horn in e.g. France, Belgium, Spain & The Netherlands? if so, your best bet would be to advertise it in 'mainland Europe' and possibly the USA where there are probably some enthusiastic '3rd-valve-ascending- anoraks'. |
Author: | Paul [ Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve |
With the addition of a "normal" 3rd valve crook and a bit of swapping about, this horn could be reconfigured to work as a "normal" Bb single with c-alto and F crooks on the thumb valves, which is a more popular layout for an ascending 5-valve single |
Author: | Will [ Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve |
I think the ascending 3rd valve on the Bb side is a useful alternative to going for the Bb and high F route. Excellent top B, Bb, A, G#, G and F#, all with the ascending 3rd valve down. A bit lacking in overtones on C# on the third space but the concept of a C valve was used by Dennis Brain who was more of an innovator than a lot of current players IMHO. |
Author: | Paul [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve |
There's bound to be a combination fingering to give richer third space C# for slow playing. A quick experiment would reveal the most in tune out of the possibilites: 125 (8th partial) 24/45 [or 1234/1345] (9th partial) 124/145/245 [or maybe 1245] (10th partial) (NB: 4 = F-valve, 5 = stop-valve) There may be more options as well! |
Author: | Mike [ Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve |
You have obviously studied Anthony Halstead's "50 different fingerings for the 4th horn solo in Don Juan which, as you know, has a total of six notes. Where can we find this most useful resource? Online perhaps? |
Author: | gibb.e.risky [ Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: For sale: Alexander 97 w/ascending 3rd valve |
In Farquharson Cousins' book. Mr T.H. told me himself that in fact his '50 different fingerings' are only for the last 4 notes not all 6 notes, and furthermore. there are actually only 48 different fingerings as 2 of them are duplicated. Since he wrote them out by hand nearly 50 years ago, long before computers and the internet etc/ were commonplace, I'm sure I / we can excuse him for that small error... |
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